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Dec 15, 2017

First, Phil & Joel talk airplane seats and armrest etiquette. Joel talks about his doodles. Then the guys talk with Deanne Welsh about maximizing impact through creativity and writing. Near the end, Joel and Deanne play a game of "Literature Quotes," spoiler - Joel loses! But see if you can beat him.

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